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My Scientific Fight!

Since March 1970...

Ronald Karel, a Turkish native who holds dual French‐Turkish citizenship, is a scientist who has specialized in the links between cloud formation and earthquakes through an interest in meteorology. He is currently an executive member of GeoCosmo, an organization established in NASA Ames and whose aim is to establish the scientific understanding of pre-earthquake science necessary for creating a true global earthquake forecast system. He first noticed the link between abnormal cloud formation and the onset of an earthquake at the age of 16 after he had started work in weather forecasting 8 years earlier. He has given talks on various platforms on his approach. Though his work was initially difficult for a larger section of the scientific community to accept, other scientists are slowly beginning to point to evidence that may point to a link between earthquakes and cloud formation through a process called air ionization, which is when activation of electronic charge carriers occurs in rocks within the earth crust. These rocks begin to experience higher and higher levels of stress in the buildup to major earthquakes. This has led to a theory still under research, called the Meteoquake theory. He is reported to have predicted an earthquake in Turkey's Central Aegean-Eastern Marmara region five days before it hit.

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“Ronald Karel, ionization occurring before the earthquake which you discovered, and the lower clouds which are possible to be seen are formed in this laboratory. We took this picture for you and we wish our collaboration with ISEP to continue.”

Dr.Friedemann Freund

NASA Ames Research Center, MS 242-4,
Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000
Tel (at NASA) 650 604-5183
Tel (at CSC) 650 810-0218
Cell 650 279-8478


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İn this picture we imagine that in Western Turkey Mag 5.0 EQ occur-red, but hypocentre was 40 km deep. As we see even with 90% humidity, we may not see any ionized clouds or ionized fogs around.


Earthquake Precursors
Ronald Karel
Ionized clouds explanation

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The discovery that rocks contain dormant electronic charge carriers which can be activated by stress. When Earth applies high levels of stress, the rocks can undergo catastrophic rupture leading to an earthquake.

The electronic charge carriers that are activated in the rocks have a special name: “Positive Holes.” Positive holes travel fast through many kilometres of rock (up to about 200 meters per second). Positive holes begin flowing out of stressed rocks up to several weeks be-fore an earthquake. They create ‘air ionization’ than ionized clouds if there is enough humidity in the lower atmosphere. Picture 1 shows 90% of humidity and then 75% humidity. İt may be possible to see ionized clouds on that area. The hypocentre of the earthquake must be maximum around 30 km deep. In western Turkey the earthquakes occur between 25 km and 2 km deep from the surface.

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Positive holes travel fast through many kilometres of rock (up to about 200 meters per second). Positive holes begin flowing out of stressed rocks up to several weeks before an earthquake. When they arrive at the surface of the Earth they move also very fast. That means, when we see from any satellite some ionized clouds and even, we measure the chemical formation from the ground we cannot predict the hypo-centre of the earthquake, unless we have some ground stations measuring many data coming from the rupture rocks.

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